Summoners have an easier time in BnS

You have your opinion and for the most part I do agree with what you said, and it was pretty much the same thing I said before. But I also don’t go around calling others slow or clueless just because they have a different perspective than you do.

Summoners have an easier time in almost all aspects of the game, that is true and I agree wholeheartedly. This translates to the class being “easy” to most players when some don’t realize that having an easy time doesn’t always mean it’s easy to master. But you may need more Blade And Soul Gold, you also need to understand that every MMORPG or even every online game requires one or more class that provides accessibility to the game. You can’t have an online game where everything requires a deep understanding and huge amount of practice to play. No one’s gonna play that kind of game, or at least not everyone’s gonna play. It’s a bad design practice. Summoner provides that accessibility, there’s always going to be one or more class/hero that’s the easiest to use to enjoy the game straight away. You’d find similar things in other online games which has a higher learning curve, from this to WoW, Lineage, LoL, Dota2, heck even in a super hardcore oriented game like Eve.

You also need to understand that in a developer’s perspective. Perfect balancing between all classes is something that they will try to avoid. A perfectly balanced game between factions/races/class would kill one thing that makes a game enticing and promotes discussions, arguments even debates and creative thinking. Sure they’ll try to nerf BNS Gold, buff, or completely change certain mechanics of a class over time, but they will never try to do it in such a way that class A has the same abilities and counter-mechanics to B and vice viersa. Google “perfect imbalance” if you wanna know more about what I mean.

For all the slow people in this thread who are trying to defend summoners, the only thing you need to understand is that people are frustrated at the “Low Risk / Low Skill = High Reward” that Summoners have in comparison to every other class in the game. To be able to compete against a player of equal or lower skill level, a player from another class must have a far superior understanding of the game mechanics and countermeasures against Summoners. Even with that, they’re still not guaranteed a win because of how easy it is for a Summoner to rectify their own mistakes and have enough to really punish the opposing classes for R4PG BNS Gold. Accept the fact that the majority of people here aren’t in the top-tier PvP matchup but I doubt they’re all from bronze/silver either. If you still cannot ackowledge the glaring imbalanced mechanics of the Summoner class, then you’re either 1) clueless, 2) in denial, or 3) a troll.

NCSOFT fails to deliver PROPER communication to their playerbase

Lots of ppl are asking that with the bot situation. Although cmon this update did come out pretty darn quick. I think the reason is which is what lots of others said is they are rushing out updates to catch up with KR which is prob the reason of it but really its only minor things here and there so its not the end of the world

The issue here is that, once again, NCSOFT fails to deliver PROPER communication to their playerbase. ALL of the information we have been receiving for EVERY patch has been through youtube or twitter. Nobody knew the patch was coming March 23rd BECAUSE it was stated in a Q&A that it would not be for a few weeks from the point they announced it *hint* it hasn’t been a few weeks.

Then there was the SUDDEN and completely NEW change made allowing people to CHOOSE their weapon path if they had not enough Blade & Soul Gold. This was done two days before the patch and it wasn’t until people blew up about it on TWITTER (where it was FIRST announced) that a forum post was made.

Now you have people running around knowingly expecting a GUARANTEED piece of content included in this patch, that was verified on TWITTER, (note: twitter seems to have all the answers now apparently) farming achievements. I am positive over half of the playerbase is still UNAWARE of this because NCSOFT cannot communicate or get their information in order.

Why is that a big deal? It subjectively is and is not. The bottom line is there has been way too much “we can’t tell you” “we have no information for that yet” answers in any Q&A’s and then all the major information is left to twitter and not their BNS homepage or Cheap Blade And Soul Gold. Nobody knows what is going on in this version for sure until the day of release anymore.

EDIT: I am aware this is posted in the “known issues” thread on News & Announcements. Who is going to look at a known issue for content that hasn’t been released? My point is that exactly. Lost communication.

The “Level to 45 in 3 Weeks!” in Blade & Soul

I feel that I really started the game at a bad time, only a few days before the “Level to 45 in 3 Weeks!” event. Since then, the pace of patching was relentless with Blade & Soul Gold. I am starting to wonder if all 7 acts will be localized by September. Maybe it’s time to create a Society for Enjoyment of BnS-West to be able to resist the stress that the company creates on the playerbase, and adopt the attitude that yes, we have the content, and we are going to frigging enjoy it, not choke on it.

well on kr I did 4 man palace with ~30k hp. here ppl will go there with 60-70 and will have more dps, so…

but it not only hp, they dumb down necropolis for sure, second phase was way harder in the past.

yeti pretty much the same with more hp, but yeti never was hard, pretty much 1 guy can carry all noobs in party there if he good untill they stop dps (koreans never stopped back in the days, we didn’t had the dps luxury for that, also it for noobs :p) and gather all ice flowers.

lair lmao.. it was BLUE dungeon back in original kr client Cheap BNS Gold, they just changed color for it to make annoncement about 3 NEW HEROIC DUNGEONS back when 50 content was released in ch, and merged this changes with all clients later. what u expect from originally blue dungeon?

You would want to do Cold Storage (both dem main boss and hidden coloured orb boss) for EXP. In CN, the hidden boss hunting quest gives 100k exp on completion. The orbs dropped from one of the previous dungeons (forgot if it was poh or bsh or even nsh), though one orb of a random colour will drop from the first boss in Cold Storage.

Usually people will find a party who is interested in doing the hidden boss. After killing first boss and looting the random coloured orb, the party leader buys the other 2 colours from AH. The fee for these 2 colours will be split among the whole party. So the other 5 members will have to pay back some BNS Gold or silver to the leader. How people prevent petty scams is to get the leader to activate two orbs, then ask for payment.

Legendary with similar skill bonus in BnS

I’m using legendary with similar skill bonus in CN even though at the beginning, most people went for Leech. It’s only later when the version with bonus damage on 4 became more and more common.

Generally across classes what I’ve seen is that the white version/CD reduction version are for R4PG BNS Gold Store, and black version/damage are for sustained builds. There are people who go for the less common one for whatever reason, but they still get into party.

50% reduced CD on Leech is insanely good for full Dark Build, considering HM RMB reduces Wingstorm CD by 2 secs, and an extra 2 secs while in Siphon State and gives an additional spectral orb.

12 Seconds Siphon State > 12 Seconds no Siphon state > 12 secs Siphon state.

I mean, it depends though on the CD reset skill on the Black weapon with Blade & Soul Gold. How often that happens, because I can’t even remotely imagine the reduced Cd on Leech being beaten.

Wingstorm cooldown might not be an extreme problem for me since 1. I’m using full dark build with unlocked Salvo, and 2. the dungeons require SS often so it resets during that time as well. I’m not extremely familiar with the common Bombardment + Helix build, so I can’t comment much on that, but as a WL that uses Helix + Salvo, definitely bonus damage.

Only JP, TW have that stuff. KR is a different realm, like China. Over in KR and CN, we have Nebula which is Meteor and Comet to Buy Blade And Soul Gold, then once you’ve reached Stage 12, you can get into Pacheon / Chokma Legendary which is the best of best Legendaries. Recently KR also added Hollow Legendary for plebs, Sky and Space, they are the successors to Nebula (Comet and Meteor).

Idk why you are worried so much about 2 man dungeons in BnS

Idk why you are worried so much about 2 man dungeons since there are too little throughout your entire leveling path,any class with their current level gear will be able to tank the 2-man dungeons while you’re dpsing in stealth. When you get to 6-man and 4-man dungeons you won’t have to worry about that,anyone else can tank,either be it a destroyer,or a blade master to Buy BNS Gold,or a summoner,or a KFM. Sin’s are useful in group PvE,they can put smokescreen on the ground (blocks projectiles and aoe heal if spec’d),you can pull meditating/near death state party members with your flower,you can also pull a large group of monsters with your flower if they have a stack of poison on them,etc.

First of all I would like to say that 190 ms its really bad for SIN, cuz thier damage output depends alot in the attack speed.

I’d say you will be in disadvantage in 1v1, but maybe you could outplay someone, but its gonna be hard for you.

In PvE, you will be even more behind IMO; the primary contribution of a SIN in party play its the raw damage, we have ‘decent’ utility: smoke screen its pretty good, flower not so much cuz we simply dont have the skill points at the moment.

our CC its MEEEEH, cuz again, we need to spec into CC, and that affects our DPS (ground mine for grenade, poison slash for shadow slash, lighting rod into stun, spinal stab etc)

At this point in NA, it doesnt really matter cuz this content its easy and YES, you can cheese out all the current dungeons with Cheap BNS Gold, even pohwaran can be done solo by SIN but… with 190ms it will take forever but it can be done

Just think about it, you will be doing like 50-60% less damage than someone with native ping

How about trying to PvE the Blade & Soul FM

This is where I’m see’ing your main issue, your trying to PvE the FM, the only reason we PvE summoners is because there are 2 targets, And he can use 1 to get in the way of the other as well as attacking you for free. The FM can not emulate this. Your rushing your attacks and not using the full timer of your stealth. If and when you get in stealth against a destroyer FM or BD you need to 1. Backaway 2. Stop moving to hope they lose sight of you, then creep in this is where your 3 (which is ranged) can be used to stealth reset as well as stun giving you a free approach from any direction.

I always keep at least 1 point in time bomb so often Ill run at him place the bomb run through him, proc a sneak attack with shuriken Blade And Soul Gold, then I’m good to go, I don’t even need to hit him again from stealth.

5. Again, Utilize COUNTER, BACKSTEP (Breaks ICE) And also smoke screen. Typically you will get frozen during your offense, now you backstep and continue your assault. If your built to Combo spec and not PvE with all your options you can continue your stun and do dmg instead of being left trying to get back in stealth before you die.

Keep in mind that the non healing version of smoke screen has a much shorter cool down.

6. My main ‘Openers’ are BNS Gold. Counter 2. Tab switch (even without infiltrate follow up.) If its not there just moth him and walks towards him hoping it pops up, if it doesn’t Counter in to stealth or back step away to re-engage. And SNEAK ATTACK.

Sneak attack is our best move, hands down. You need to have it available as much as possible. This leads me in to my final bit of advice.